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COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

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The goals cascade is the nerve center of COBIT® 5. It supports the identification of stakeholder needs and enterprise goals through the achievement of technical outcomes which, in turn, support the successful use of enabling processes and organizational structures. 

COBIT 5, through the goals cascade and enabling processes for the governance and management of enterprise goals, recognizes that it is key for enterprise leaders to understand their business requirements for information systems. COBIT 5 emphasizes aligning IT initiatives with business (enterprise) requirements first before planning, organising and building a system that is being considered for acquisition. Aligning IT initiatives means that IT long- and short-term plans are focused on enabling achievement of business strategic and performance plans and creating enterprise sustainable competitive advantage. To build a system, enterprise leaders must have a clear understanding of the business drivers and outline specific enterprise user requirements for IT.

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Using the COBIT5 goals cascade ensures that IT-enabled investments procured meet enterprisegoals, address stakeholder needs, enable benefits realization and ensure thatthe life cycle of the acquired investment is managed by continuously aligningIT-enabled investments (IT projects) to changing stakeholder requirements.Ensuring that there is a dynamic business case in place and continued businessdrive/involvement in IT projects will ensure that IT projects are aligned tobusiness requirements.

To what extendis business involved in IT projects in your organisation and how frequently arebusiness cases reviewed? Share your experience and lets discuss.

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Aligning the COBIT 5 cascade goals with the enterprise IT and Business drivers is a good ingredient to ensuring sustainable success and return on investments on IT Investments. However, in a very agile world where most businesses are being driven by the continuous delivery model (for most projects) I would like to know from the group how one can COBIT 5 cascade goals into this model?
l0ngfelaLively at 12/2/2015 12:05:58 PM Quote
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Using the COBIT5 goals cascade ensures that IT-enabled investments procured meet enterprisegoals, address stakeholder needs, enable benefits realization and ensure thatthe life cycle of the acquired investment is managed by continuously aligningIT-enabled investments (IT projects) to changing stakeholder requirements.Ensuring that there is a dynamic business case in place and continued businessdrive/involvement in IT projects will ensure that IT projects are aligned tobusiness requirements.

To what extendis business involved in IT projects in your organisation and how frequently arebusiness cases reviewed? Share your experience and lets discuss.

Greetings Mr. Zororo,

Please allow me to first congratulate you for a well written article. The article resounded the never-ending same old cliches of the IT vs Business "war". I liked that you focused on the Business Case as an effective tool to get both the IT and the Business on relatively the same page.

In reality, many organizations do not even consider a Business Case, or sometimes are not even aware of such a concept. In government organizations, however, a formal Business Case might exist, but never be reviewed. In my opinion, to ensure that Business Cases are an integral part of the high level management planning, it is imperative that Portfolio Management be established as a function, to monitor the investments. That alone will at least ensure the Business Cases are being periodically reviewed.
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 12/6/2015 10:47:14 PM Quote
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Greetings Mr. Kaitano,

You have raised a very interesting point. 

I'm an agile practitioner myself, and in fact love the CD model, but I get very annoyed when other so-called misinformed practitioners misinterpret the concept of agile and mutate it to some incorrigibly unrecognizable mess. *End of rant.

Jokes apart, there are few fallacies that I would like to highlight. 
  1. Projects cannot be on continuous delivery model, they have to be "Products".
  2. Very agile world doesn't necessarily mean very vague business requirements, and certainly doesn't mean very vague investments.
As an organization, it is of extreme importance that each investment is properly nurtured to feasible fruitful result. This doesn't mean ROI alone, many investments are made for intangible outcomes as well. Hence, the concept of Benefits Realization. Just because the functional requirements are not finalized yet (hence "agile"), doesn't mean that the business requirements are non-existent.

Portfolio of competitive products and services (EG02), Customer-oriented service culture (EG06), Agile responses to a changing business environment (EG08), Product and business innovation culture (EG17), IT agility; all talk about agility of the Organization from the business and IT perspective. One can easily use these starting points to analyze the Stakeholders needs to cascade to these goals, even for agility. However, that doesn't  mean the other aspects in the BSC are completely neglected or ignored (there is a reason why it is called "Balanced").

Please don't get me wrong. But if I were a business owner, I will always have a tendency as a doting parent, to look down upon the IT as an unruly kid who doesn't know what the real world is, or doesn't seem to care. As a business owner, I would always want to protect my assets and investments against wrong decisions, but at the same time try to grow them. And this would be only time I would reluctantly delegate that part to IT. And then, the rest is history (sigh) ...

So, the question is not whether COBIT 5 can cater to agile, of course it does; the question is how vague and disconnected the "agile products" are, from the business investments and business requirements perspective. If that gap is plugged with a feasible Business Case, enunciating at least the Business Requirements and the Benefits Realization, then the world (IT vs Business) would be such a better place. COBIT 5 only shows the way, once has to walk it on one's own.

PS: I'm usually not so preachy or dramatic (or maybe I am, you never know), but the topic was too interesting and tempting to not present my opinions on it. And in the end, this is just my opinion, please take it with a pinch of salt). Cheers !!
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 12/6/2015 11:42:04 PM Quote
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Thank you Rohit, a business case is a living document. Its dynamic, its not static. It has to be periodically reviewed to ensure that IT enabled requirements for business are constantly in alignment with the ever changing business direction and requirements. This can be done through a stage-gate review approach.
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Greetings Mr Kaitano, I concur with Rohit's points. It reminds me of my common statement as a practitioner "Agile is no pretext for good governance and management practices of IT enabled investments." Portfolio Management (APO05) practices amongst others still apply in agile or DevOps - stakeholder requirements, enterprise strategic and performance goals drive these processes.
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Using the COBIT5 goals cascade ensures that IT-enabled investments procured meet enterprisegoals, address stakeholder needs, enable benefits realization and ensure thatthe life cycle of the acquired investment is managed by continuously aligningIT-enabled investments (IT projects) to changing stakeholder requirements.Ensuring that there is a dynamic business case in place and continued businessdrive/involvement in IT projects will ensure that IT projects are aligned tobusiness requirements.

To what extendis business involved in IT projects in your organisation and how frequently arebusiness cases reviewed? Share your experience and lets discuss.

Greetings Mr. Zororo,

Please allow me to first congratulate you for a well written article. The article resounded the never-ending same old cliches of the IT vs Business "war". I liked that you focused on the Business Case as an effective tool to get both the IT and the Business on relatively the same page.

In reality, many organizations do not even consider a Business Case, or sometimes are not even aware of such a concept. In government organizations, however, a formal Business Case might exist, but never be reviewed. In my opinion, to ensure that Business Cases are an integral part of the high level management planning, it is imperative that Portfolio Management be established as a function, to monitor the investments. That alone will at least ensure the Business Cases are being periodically reviewed.
Rohit Banerjee at 12/6/2015 10:47:14 PM
Greetings Mr.Rohit and Zororo,

I do agree with Mr.Rohit. before we going further more to 5 cascade, i've an experience that we suppose to know what needs to be done in 7 life cycles first, sometime board leader ignoring EDM01, just because of a kind of policies. for the result, APO01 have to work an extra hard to aligning to EDM03,  i like the way you said that " The article resounded the never-ending same old cliches of the IT vs Business war",  thats why in some places COBIT5 still hard to implemented specially in a developing country (very hard indeed) just because of "human factor and policies" were not allign, and it give a big impact to its Bussiness Organization...
A.S.KSocial at 1/13/2016 9:34:06 AM Quote
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Using the COBIT5 goals cascade ensures that IT-enabled investments procured meet enterprisegoals, address stakeholder needs, enable benefits realization and ensure thatthe life cycle of the acquired investment is managed by continuously aligningIT-enabled investments (IT projects) to changing stakeholder requirements.Ensuring that there is a dynamic business case in place and continued businessdrive/involvement in IT projects will ensure that IT projects are aligned tobusiness requirements.

To what extendis business involved in IT projects in your organisation and how frequently arebusiness cases reviewed? Share your experience and lets discuss.

Greetings Mr. Zororo,

Please allow me to first congratulate you for a well written article. The article resounded the never-ending same old cliches of the IT vs Business "war". I liked that you focused on the Business Case as an effective tool to get both the IT and the Business on relatively the same page.

In reality, many organizations do not even consider a Business Case, or sometimes are not even aware of such a concept. In government organizations, however, a formal Business Case might exist, but never be reviewed. In my opinion, to ensure that Business Cases are an integral part of the high level management planning, it is imperative that Portfolio Management be established as a function, to monitor the investments. That alone will at least ensure the Business Cases are being periodically reviewed.
Rohit Banerjee at 12/6/2015 10:47:14 PM
Greetings Mr.Rohit and Zororo,

I do agree with Mr.Rohit. before we going further more to 5 cascade, i've an experience that we suppose to know what needs to be done in 7 life cycles first, sometime board leader ignoring EDM01, just because of a kind of policies. for the result, APO01 have to work an extra hard to aligning to EDM03,  i like the way you said that " The article resounded the never-ending same old cliches of the IT vs Business war",  thats why in some places COBIT5 still hard to implemented specially in a developing country (very hard indeed) just because of "human factor and policies" were not allign, and it give a big impact to its Bussiness Organization...
A.S.KSocial at 1/13/2016 9:34:06 AM Quote
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Greetings Mr Kaitano, I concur with Rohit's points. It reminds me of my common statement as a practitioner "Agile is no pretext for good governance and management practices of IT enabled investments." Portfolio Management (APO05) practices amongst others still apply in agile or DevOps - stakeholder requirements, enterprise strategic and performance goals drive these processes.
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(1 ratings)

RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Thank you Rohit, a business case is a living document. Its dynamic, its not static. It has to be periodically reviewed to ensure that IT enabled requirements for business are constantly in alignment with the ever changing business direction and requirements. This can be done through a stage-gate review approach.
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(1 ratings)

RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Greetings Mr. Kaitano,

You have raised a very interesting point. 

I'm an agile practitioner myself, and in fact love the CD model, but I get very annoyed when other so-called misinformed practitioners misinterpret the concept of agile and mutate it to some incorrigibly unrecognizable mess. *End of rant.

Jokes apart, there are few fallacies that I would like to highlight. 
  1. Projects cannot be on continuous delivery model, they have to be "Products".
  2. Very agile world doesn't necessarily mean very vague business requirements, and certainly doesn't mean very vague investments.
As an organization, it is of extreme importance that each investment is properly nurtured to feasible fruitful result. This doesn't mean ROI alone, many investments are made for intangible outcomes as well. Hence, the concept of Benefits Realization. Just because the functional requirements are not finalized yet (hence "agile"), doesn't mean that the business requirements are non-existent.

Portfolio of competitive products and services (EG02), Customer-oriented service culture (EG06), Agile responses to a changing business environment (EG08), Product and business innovation culture (EG17), IT agility; all talk about agility of the Organization from the business and IT perspective. One can easily use these starting points to analyze the Stakeholders needs to cascade to these goals, even for agility. However, that doesn't  mean the other aspects in the BSC are completely neglected or ignored (there is a reason why it is called "Balanced").

Please don't get me wrong. But if I were a business owner, I will always have a tendency as a doting parent, to look down upon the IT as an unruly kid who doesn't know what the real world is, or doesn't seem to care. As a business owner, I would always want to protect my assets and investments against wrong decisions, but at the same time try to grow them. And this would be only time I would reluctantly delegate that part to IT. And then, the rest is history (sigh) ...

So, the question is not whether COBIT 5 can cater to agile, of course it does; the question is how vague and disconnected the "agile products" are, from the business investments and business requirements perspective. If that gap is plugged with a feasible Business Case, enunciating at least the Business Requirements and the Benefits Realization, then the world (IT vs Business) would be such a better place. COBIT 5 only shows the way, once has to walk it on one's own.

PS: I'm usually not so preachy or dramatic (or maybe I am, you never know), but the topic was too interesting and tempting to not present my opinions on it. And in the end, this is just my opinion, please take it with a pinch of salt). Cheers !!
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 12/6/2015 11:42:04 PM Quote
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Using the COBIT5 goals cascade ensures that IT-enabled investments procured meet enterprisegoals, address stakeholder needs, enable benefits realization and ensure thatthe life cycle of the acquired investment is managed by continuously aligningIT-enabled investments (IT projects) to changing stakeholder requirements.Ensuring that there is a dynamic business case in place and continued businessdrive/involvement in IT projects will ensure that IT projects are aligned tobusiness requirements.

To what extendis business involved in IT projects in your organisation and how frequently arebusiness cases reviewed? Share your experience and lets discuss.

Greetings Mr. Zororo,

Please allow me to first congratulate you for a well written article. The article resounded the never-ending same old cliches of the IT vs Business "war". I liked that you focused on the Business Case as an effective tool to get both the IT and the Business on relatively the same page.

In reality, many organizations do not even consider a Business Case, or sometimes are not even aware of such a concept. In government organizations, however, a formal Business Case might exist, but never be reviewed. In my opinion, to ensure that Business Cases are an integral part of the high level management planning, it is imperative that Portfolio Management be established as a function, to monitor the investments. That alone will at least ensure the Business Cases are being periodically reviewed.
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 12/6/2015 10:47:14 PM Quote
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Aligning the COBIT 5 cascade goals with the enterprise IT and Business drivers is a good ingredient to ensuring sustainable success and return on investments on IT Investments. However, in a very agile world where most businesses are being driven by the continuous delivery model (for most projects) I would like to know from the group how one can COBIT 5 cascade goals into this model?
l0ngfelaLively at 12/2/2015 12:05:58 PM Quote
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Using the COBIT5 goals cascade ensures that IT-enabled investments procured meet enterprisegoals, address stakeholder needs, enable benefits realization and ensure thatthe life cycle of the acquired investment is managed by continuously aligningIT-enabled investments (IT projects) to changing stakeholder requirements.Ensuring that there is a dynamic business case in place and continued businessdrive/involvement in IT projects will ensure that IT projects are aligned tobusiness requirements.

To what extendis business involved in IT projects in your organisation and how frequently arebusiness cases reviewed? Share your experience and lets discuss.

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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Aligning the COBIT 5 cascade goals with the enterprise IT and Business drivers is a good ingredient to ensuring sustainable success and return on investments on IT Investments. However, in a very agile world where most businesses are being driven by the continuous delivery model (for most projects) I would like to know from the group how one can COBIT 5 cascade goals into this model?
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Thank you Rohit, a business case is a living document. Its dynamic, its not static. It has to be periodically reviewed to ensure that IT enabled requirements for business are constantly in alignment with the ever changing business direction and requirements. This can be done through a stage-gate review approach.
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Greetings Mr Kaitano, I concur with Rohit's points. It reminds me of my common statement as a practitioner "Agile is no pretext for good governance and management practices of IT enabled investments." Portfolio Management (APO05) practices amongst others still apply in agile or DevOps - stakeholder requirements, enterprise strategic and performance goals drive these processes.
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Using the COBIT5 goals cascade ensures that IT-enabled investments procured meet enterprisegoals, address stakeholder needs, enable benefits realization and ensure thatthe life cycle of the acquired investment is managed by continuously aligningIT-enabled investments (IT projects) to changing stakeholder requirements.Ensuring that there is a dynamic business case in place and continued businessdrive/involvement in IT projects will ensure that IT projects are aligned tobusiness requirements.

To what extendis business involved in IT projects in your organisation and how frequently arebusiness cases reviewed? Share your experience and lets discuss.

Greetings Mr. Zororo,

Please allow me to first congratulate you for a well written article. The article resounded the never-ending same old cliches of the IT vs Business "war". I liked that you focused on the Business Case as an effective tool to get both the IT and the Business on relatively the same page.

In reality, many organizations do not even consider a Business Case, or sometimes are not even aware of such a concept. In government organizations, however, a formal Business Case might exist, but never be reviewed. In my opinion, to ensure that Business Cases are an integral part of the high level management planning, it is imperative that Portfolio Management be established as a function, to monitor the investments. That alone will at least ensure the Business Cases are being periodically reviewed.
Rohit Banerjee at 12/6/2015 10:47:14 PM
Greetings Mr.Rohit and Zororo,

I do agree with Mr.Rohit. before we going further more to 5 cascade, i've an experience that we suppose to know what needs to be done in 7 life cycles first, sometime board leader ignoring EDM01, just because of a kind of policies. for the result, APO01 have to work an extra hard to aligning to EDM03,  i like the way you said that " The article resounded the never-ending same old cliches of the IT vs Business war",  thats why in some places COBIT5 still hard to implemented specially in a developing country (very hard indeed) just because of "human factor and policies" were not allign, and it give a big impact to its Bussiness Organization...
A.S.KSocial at 1/13/2016 9:34:06 AM Quote
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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Using the COBIT5 goals cascade ensures that IT-enabled investments procured meet enterprisegoals, address stakeholder needs, enable benefits realization and ensure thatthe life cycle of the acquired investment is managed by continuously aligningIT-enabled investments (IT projects) to changing stakeholder requirements.Ensuring that there is a dynamic business case in place and continued businessdrive/involvement in IT projects will ensure that IT projects are aligned tobusiness requirements.

To what extendis business involved in IT projects in your organisation and how frequently arebusiness cases reviewed? Share your experience and lets discuss.

Greetings Mr. Zororo,

Please allow me to first congratulate you for a well written article. The article resounded the never-ending same old cliches of the IT vs Business "war". I liked that you focused on the Business Case as an effective tool to get both the IT and the Business on relatively the same page.

In reality, many organizations do not even consider a Business Case, or sometimes are not even aware of such a concept. In government organizations, however, a formal Business Case might exist, but never be reviewed. In my opinion, to ensure that Business Cases are an integral part of the high level management planning, it is imperative that Portfolio Management be established as a function, to monitor the investments. That alone will at least ensure the Business Cases are being periodically reviewed.
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To what extendis business involved in IT projects in your organisation and how frequently arebusiness cases reviewed? Share your experience and lets discuss.

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RE: COBIT Focus - Driving Enterprise IT Strategy Alignment and Creating Value Using the COBIT 5 Goals Cascade

Greetings Mr. Kaitano,

You have raised a very interesting point. 

I'm an agile practitioner myself, and in fact love the CD model, but I get very annoyed when other so-called misinformed practitioners misinterpret the concept of agile and mutate it to some incorrigibly unrecognizable mess. *End of rant.

Jokes apart, there are few fallacies that I would like to highlight. 
  1. Projects cannot be on continuous delivery model, they have to be "Products".
  2. Very agile world doesn't necessarily mean very vague business requirements, and certainly doesn't mean very vague investments.
As an organization, it is of extreme importance that each investment is properly nurtured to feasible fruitful result. This doesn't mean ROI alone, many investments are made for intangible outcomes as well. Hence, the concept of Benefits Realization. Just because the functional requirements are not finalized yet (hence "agile"), doesn't mean that the business requirements are non-existent.

Portfolio of competitive products and services (EG02), Customer-oriented service culture (EG06), Agile responses to a changing business environment (EG08), Product and business innovation culture (EG17), IT agility; all talk about agility of the Organization from the business and IT perspective. One can easily use these starting points to analyze the Stakeholders needs to cascade to these goals, even for agility. However, that doesn't  mean the other aspects in the BSC are completely neglected or ignored (there is a reason why it is called "Balanced").

Please don't get me wrong. But if I were a business owner, I will always have a tendency as a doting parent, to look down upon the IT as an unruly kid who doesn't know what the real world is, or doesn't seem to care. As a business owner, I would always want to protect my assets and investments against wrong decisions, but at the same time try to grow them. And this would be only time I would reluctantly delegate that part to IT. And then, the rest is history (sigh) ...

So, the question is not whether COBIT 5 can cater to agile, of course it does; the question is how vague and disconnected the "agile products" are, from the business investments and business requirements perspective. If that gap is plugged with a feasible Business Case, enunciating at least the Business Requirements and the Benefits Realization, then the world (IT vs Business) would be such a better place. COBIT 5 only shows the way, once has to walk it on one's own.

PS: I'm usually not so preachy or dramatic (or maybe I am, you never know), but the topic was too interesting and tempting to not present my opinions on it. And in the end, this is just my opinion, please take it with a pinch of salt). Cheers !!
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 12/6/2015 11:42:04 PM Quote
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