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IT Governance and the management of IT

Having been in IT management (Director or CIO) for over 25 years, I am just now becoming educated on Governance as a discipline to deliver value to the firm. While it is exciting learning about different frameworks for governance and how they can be applied, it is very confusing determining what would be most impactful for my current and future roles in the leadership of IT. Cobit as a framework appears to have significant value, while the GEIT certification has significant value. Not sure what the experience requirement are for GEIT certification. As a novice in this area, I would appreciate any information from those with experience. thanks
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Boris494Lively at 10/1/2015 12:58:07 PM Quote
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Dear Richard, 

You may obtain information about CGEIT certification at http://www.isaca.org/Certification/CGEIT-Certified-in-the-Governance-of-Enterprise-IT/Pages/default.aspx 

For me COBIT 5 is an excellent framework and Evaluate, Direct and Monitor processes are very useful to understand and apply IT governance. May be some examples about its use can help you.  You may choose Cobit Focus articles or Journal articles.  I have put in practices COBIT 5 and it was a great experience.

May I invite you and all members to the Green IT topic? 

Good luck and best regards
Graciela BragaEnergizer at 10/2/2015 1:13:24 PM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Hello Richard,

The main crux is GEIT. 

That being said, CGEIT is a credential certification offered by ISACA for aspiring GEIT practitioners. 

COBIT 5 is a framework to imlpement GEIT in an organisation, developed by ISACA. GEIT practitioners may also be certified COBIT 5 Implementers as well.

I hope the above clarified your query.

In my case, I studied for both the CGEIT certification, and at the same time read the COBIT 5 framework thoroughly. This helped me crack the CGEIT exam and get a vivid practical perspective of GEIT implementation, using COBIT 5 as the guideline.
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 10/6/2015 5:36:35 AM Quote
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In addition to passing the GEIT exam, is there a requirement for experience in audit or use of an audit tool?

Richard Hall
Director of Information Technology
Lowndes, Drosdick, Doster, Kantor & Reed, P.A.
215 North Eola Drive
Orlando, FL 32801
Phone: 407-843-4600 x283
Direct Line: 407-418-6283
Fax: 407-843-4444
email: [email protected]
www.lowndes-law.com


Richard845Lively at 11/2/2015 12:36:07 PM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Hello Richard,

Audit work experience is not required for CGEIT, but for CISA. For CGEIT, one needs work experience in 5 domains (first one is mandatory)
  1. Framework for the Governance of Enterprise IT
  2. Strategic Management
  3. Benefits Realization
  4. Risk Optimization
  5. Resource Optimization
For more details, its better to check the following links:

http://www.isaca.org/Certification/CGEIT-Certified-in-the-Governance-of-Enterprise-IT/Pages/How-to-Become-Certified.aspx

http://www.isaca.org/Certification/CGEIT-Certified-in-the-Governance-of-Enterprise-IT/Job-Practice-Areas/Pages/default.aspx

Regards,
Rohit
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 11/5/2015 1:12:45 AM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Richard, If I understand your query correctly, it sounds as if you are asking about the value of CGEIT and the usage of frameworks such as COBIT? I (like you) have been in IT at all levels for many years, but only really got into the true governance area in the last 3-4 years. I decided to study all the various frameworks and then committed myself to the CGEIT exam and certification - I did this more for "credibility" at the Board level than anything else. In my view the biggest attribute I had when it came to passing CGEIT exam was my 30+ years of practical IT experience and management. With regard to frameworks, I strongly advise that you do not ever just pick one. None of the many frameworks satisfy all requirements - you need to take parts of all of them , fill in a few gaps and create something that works for your organisation. If you can take your experience then blend this with some of the structure/language used by the frameworks then I am sure you will be successful. Good Luck and Kind Regards Mark
Mark HodgesLively at 12/4/2015 8:39:01 AM Quote
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Hello Mr. Hall,

While Mr. Hodges have given quite a solid piece of advice and input, however in the light of Mr. Hodges clarifying your query, as far as value delivery to your organization is concerned, I would recommend COBIT 5, since the CGEIT manual itself gleans a lot of information from the COBIT 5 publications.

Like I mentioned earlier, CGEIT is only for credentialing a person for his/her knowledge and experience in GEIT, whereas COBIT 5 is a practical framework to implement GEIT in an organization, but it does have person-based implementer and assessor certifications available too (after Foundation of course).

Also, COBIT 4.x and 5 combined has a vast amount of study and research material to pore over.
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 12/31/2015 2:40:56 AM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Hello Mr. Hall,

While Mr. Hodges have given quite a solid piece of advice and input, however in the light of Mr. Hodges clarifying your query, as far as value delivery to your organization is concerned, I would recommend COBIT 5, since the CGEIT manual itself gleans a lot of information from the COBIT 5 publications.

Like I mentioned earlier, CGEIT is only for credentialing a person for his/her knowledge and experience in GEIT, whereas COBIT 5 is a practical framework to implement GEIT in an organization, but it does have person-based implementer and assessor certifications available too (after Foundation of course).

Also, COBIT 4.x and 5 combined has a vast amount of study and research material to pore over.
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 12/31/2015 2:40:56 AM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Richard, If I understand your query correctly, it sounds as if you are asking about the value of CGEIT and the usage of frameworks such as COBIT? I (like you) have been in IT at all levels for many years, but only really got into the true governance area in the last 3-4 years. I decided to study all the various frameworks and then committed myself to the CGEIT exam and certification - I did this more for "credibility" at the Board level than anything else. In my view the biggest attribute I had when it came to passing CGEIT exam was my 30+ years of practical IT experience and management. With regard to frameworks, I strongly advise that you do not ever just pick one. None of the many frameworks satisfy all requirements - you need to take parts of all of them , fill in a few gaps and create something that works for your organisation. If you can take your experience then blend this with some of the structure/language used by the frameworks then I am sure you will be successful. Good Luck and Kind Regards Mark
Mark HodgesLively at 12/4/2015 8:39:01 AM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Hello Richard,

Audit work experience is not required for CGEIT, but for CISA. For CGEIT, one needs work experience in 5 domains (first one is mandatory)
  1. Framework for the Governance of Enterprise IT
  2. Strategic Management
  3. Benefits Realization
  4. Risk Optimization
  5. Resource Optimization
For more details, its better to check the following links:

http://www.isaca.org/Certification/CGEIT-Certified-in-the-Governance-of-Enterprise-IT/Pages/How-to-Become-Certified.aspx

http://www.isaca.org/Certification/CGEIT-Certified-in-the-Governance-of-Enterprise-IT/Job-Practice-Areas/Pages/default.aspx

Regards,
Rohit
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 11/5/2015 1:12:45 AM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

In addition to passing the GEIT exam, is there a requirement for experience in audit or use of an audit tool?

Richard Hall
Director of Information Technology
Lowndes, Drosdick, Doster, Kantor & Reed, P.A.
215 North Eola Drive
Orlando, FL 32801
Phone: 407-843-4600 x283
Direct Line: 407-418-6283
Fax: 407-843-4444
email: [email protected]
www.lowndes-law.com


Richard845Lively at 11/2/2015 12:36:07 PM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Hello Richard,

The main crux is GEIT. 

That being said, CGEIT is a credential certification offered by ISACA for aspiring GEIT practitioners. 

COBIT 5 is a framework to imlpement GEIT in an organisation, developed by ISACA. GEIT practitioners may also be certified COBIT 5 Implementers as well.

I hope the above clarified your query.

In my case, I studied for both the CGEIT certification, and at the same time read the COBIT 5 framework thoroughly. This helped me crack the CGEIT exam and get a vivid practical perspective of GEIT implementation, using COBIT 5 as the guideline.
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 10/6/2015 5:36:35 AM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Dear Richard, 

You may obtain information about CGEIT certification at http://www.isaca.org/Certification/CGEIT-Certified-in-the-Governance-of-Enterprise-IT/Pages/default.aspx 

For me COBIT 5 is an excellent framework and Evaluate, Direct and Monitor processes are very useful to understand and apply IT governance. May be some examples about its use can help you.  You may choose Cobit Focus articles or Journal articles.  I have put in practices COBIT 5 and it was a great experience.

May I invite you and all members to the Green IT topic? 

Good luck and best regards
Graciela BragaEnergizer at 10/2/2015 1:13:24 PM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Friday 02/10 day off.
Boris494Lively at 10/1/2015 12:58:07 PM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Richard, If I understand your query correctly, it sounds as if you are asking about the value of CGEIT and the usage of frameworks such as COBIT? I (like you) have been in IT at all levels for many years, but only really got into the true governance area in the last 3-4 years. I decided to study all the various frameworks and then committed myself to the CGEIT exam and certification - I did this more for "credibility" at the Board level than anything else. In my view the biggest attribute I had when it came to passing CGEIT exam was my 30+ years of practical IT experience and management. With regard to frameworks, I strongly advise that you do not ever just pick one. None of the many frameworks satisfy all requirements - you need to take parts of all of them , fill in a few gaps and create something that works for your organisation. If you can take your experience then blend this with some of the structure/language used by the frameworks then I am sure you will be successful. Good Luck and Kind Regards Mark
Mark HodgesLively at 12/4/2015 8:39:01 AM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Friday 02/10 day off.
Boris494Lively at 10/1/2015 12:58:07 PM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Dear Richard, 

You may obtain information about CGEIT certification at http://www.isaca.org/Certification/CGEIT-Certified-in-the-Governance-of-Enterprise-IT/Pages/default.aspx 

For me COBIT 5 is an excellent framework and Evaluate, Direct and Monitor processes are very useful to understand and apply IT governance. May be some examples about its use can help you.  You may choose Cobit Focus articles or Journal articles.  I have put in practices COBIT 5 and it was a great experience.

May I invite you and all members to the Green IT topic? 

Good luck and best regards
Graciela BragaEnergizer at 10/2/2015 1:13:24 PM Quote
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(Unrated)

RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Hello Richard,

The main crux is GEIT. 

That being said, CGEIT is a credential certification offered by ISACA for aspiring GEIT practitioners. 

COBIT 5 is a framework to imlpement GEIT in an organisation, developed by ISACA. GEIT practitioners may also be certified COBIT 5 Implementers as well.

I hope the above clarified your query.

In my case, I studied for both the CGEIT certification, and at the same time read the COBIT 5 framework thoroughly. This helped me crack the CGEIT exam and get a vivid practical perspective of GEIT implementation, using COBIT 5 as the guideline.
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 10/6/2015 5:36:35 AM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

In addition to passing the GEIT exam, is there a requirement for experience in audit or use of an audit tool?

Richard Hall
Director of Information Technology
Lowndes, Drosdick, Doster, Kantor & Reed, P.A.
215 North Eola Drive
Orlando, FL 32801
Phone: 407-843-4600 x283
Direct Line: 407-418-6283
Fax: 407-843-4444
email: [email protected]
www.lowndes-law.com


Richard845Lively at 11/2/2015 12:36:07 PM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Hello Richard,

Audit work experience is not required for CGEIT, but for CISA. For CGEIT, one needs work experience in 5 domains (first one is mandatory)
  1. Framework for the Governance of Enterprise IT
  2. Strategic Management
  3. Benefits Realization
  4. Risk Optimization
  5. Resource Optimization
For more details, its better to check the following links:

http://www.isaca.org/Certification/CGEIT-Certified-in-the-Governance-of-Enterprise-IT/Pages/How-to-Become-Certified.aspx

http://www.isaca.org/Certification/CGEIT-Certified-in-the-Governance-of-Enterprise-IT/Job-Practice-Areas/Pages/default.aspx

Regards,
Rohit
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 11/5/2015 1:12:45 AM Quote
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RE: IT Governance and the management of IT

Hello Mr. Hall,

While Mr. Hodges have given quite a solid piece of advice and input, however in the light of Mr. Hodges clarifying your query, as far as value delivery to your organization is concerned, I would recommend COBIT 5, since the CGEIT manual itself gleans a lot of information from the COBIT 5 publications.

Like I mentioned earlier, CGEIT is only for credentialing a person for his/her knowledge and experience in GEIT, whereas COBIT 5 is a practical framework to implement GEIT in an organization, but it does have person-based implementer and assessor certifications available too (after Foundation of course).

Also, COBIT 4.x and 5 combined has a vast amount of study and research material to pore over.
Rohit BanerjeeInfluential at 12/31/2015 2:40:56 AM Quote
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